Subject: RE: Here's a place that still sells 'pure' gasoline
Passed along by: Laura Lee Brodie
http://www.gentryoil.com/1761 Langley Avenue
Deland, Florida 32724
1-800-688-9734 or (386)734-4239
NON-ETHANOL GASOLINE
87 OCTANE
89 OCTANE
93 OCTANE
http://www.mtdoraboats.com/content.asp?nav=112808&cpid=8228& * 148 Charles Ave.
* Mt. Dora, FL, 32757
* p: 352-383-3150
We sell 93 octane fuel, with no ethanol, which is a step above the recommendation of most engine manufacturers. We've found better fuel leads to longer engine life and we try to help folks protect their boat investment every way we can.
Our storage capacity is limited to 1000 gallons, as a result we can only offer fuel sales to our storage customers and members of our "STARS Club."
http://www.lambsyachtcenter.com/3376 Lake Shore Blvd
Jacksonville, FL 32210
(904) 384-5577
LAMB'S YACHT CENTER OFFERS:
• NON-ETHANOL GAS SOLD HERE
• Clean Marine Designation
• Clean Boat Yard Designation
• Fresh Water Environment
• 30 and 40 Ton Railway Hoist
• 100 Ton Marine Travel Lift
• Full Service Yard with Deep Water Slips
• 242 Slips – 150 covered
• Loading, Unloading and Overseas
Shipping
• Nearby Shopping Center
• Gasoline and Diesel Fuel
• Pump Out Station
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20090604/COLUMNISTS0401/906040302/1086/Help++column++Ethanol-free+gas+available+in+BrevardTurns out his service station on U.S. 1 in downtown Melbourne has a steady supply of E-free gasoline available for sale to the motoring public.
For those wanting to hurry on in, be looking for Neil's Riverside BP, 2001 S. Harbor City Blvd. Hours are 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily except Sunday when doors are open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.
Call 724-2129.
The business on the southeast quadrant of U.S. 1 and New Haven Avenue pumps unbranded 91 octane recreation fuel containing no ethanol. A dispenser with two nozzles has been dedicated for that purpose.
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20090531/COLUMNISTS0401/905310303/-1/SEVENDAYSFootnote: Island Gas' changeover to E-10, coupled with a beachside service station's inability to get unblended gas any longer, brings to an end the column's ongoing effort to keep readers abreast of ethanol-free fuel sources. Unless someone has news to the contrary, it now can be said those few stations hung in there until the bitter end.
At the BP filling station at 690 S. Patrick Drive in Satellite Beach, proprietor Charles Thomas said his last load of "conventional gas," as he likes to call it, was delivered April 30.
http://delrayharborclubmarina.piczo.com/fuel?cr=2&linkvar=0000441035 South Federal Highway
Delray Beach, Florida 33483
Fuel Pricing For May 2009
GAS $3.27/GAL 90 Octain no ethonol
DIESEL $2.33/GAL + Tax
QUANITY Call Dockmaster for Pricing-(561)276-0376
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/thread?id=825797Beside not mixing older MTBE fuels with E10 here is a few other things I've found out:
1. Ethanol absorbs large amounts of water in open systems like boat tanks. Get a clear sight glass filter (like Racor) and drain it after every use. I keep a empty water bottle after fishing and completely drain the filter after every trip. I always find some water.
2. E10 is unstable and recommended storage for only up to 90 days - use your boat more frequently to burn up that old gas.
3. Ethanol is an excellent solvent and cleaner. It will dissolve any varnish, gum or other gunk in your system. Change your filters frequently. It also slowly dissolves Aluminum tanks and will deposit a white power (Aluminum Oxide) on your filters. Don't forget to change the small filter inside your cowling. Keep spare filters on board.
4. E-10 is supposed to be 10% max by law but it has been found that many gas stations have much higher % in their tanks - up to 40% has been found incorrectly added at gas station pumps by the delivery truck drivers. This voids all marine engine warrantees. The only way to avoid this is buy a self test kit.
5. Most fuel dryer additives do not work - they simply add more alcohol. Use ones like Sta-bil (the newer version not the old version), and Startron.
6. Try to drain any water out of your tank periodically by lowering the front of your boat (lay the trailor hitch on the ground). Your gas pick-up tube should be near the front of your tank. Disconnect your fuel pump bulb and pump out a quart or so and look for water in your container.
7. Keep your fuel tank full to avoid large air spaces in your tank. The large temp range of daytime and nighttime cooling cause air to be sucked into your empty tank and allow the E10 to grab the moisture out of the air.
Check all filters frequently. My 250 Yamaha OX66 has a 3 fule filters - hte normal fual water sperator (Racor), the small cartrige filter inside the cowling and a third (very fine mess memebrane) filter inside the electric fuel pump canister mounted on the port side of the engine block. If you ever injest water into your system, you will have to replace that filter as well.
Good luck
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Wowee that's a site! I was only using ethanol free gas but a while back the Marina could only get E10. Now I was told they went to a different source and are selling ethanol free again at No Causeway Marina in NSB. I got this boat new in June and put almost 100 hrs on it by Dec. I just got it back yesterday from it's 100 hr service I had them change the fuel separator and I have always used Stabil in the gas and thank God I have had no problems yet! I think the more a boat sits the more likely to develop ethanol problems. Marine Specialties and Jerry's Marina in New Smyrna are both slammed with ethanol damage repairs from snow birds mostly. Run your engines regularly.
http://northcauseway.homestead.com/North Causeway Marine
4 North Causeway
New Smyrna Beach, FL 32169-5302
Last I checked about a month ago, Harbortown Marina in the barge canal still had no-ethanol gas. Price was pretty good for marina mid-grade gas, and they post the price daily on their web page.
http://www.harbortownmarina.com/Canaveral/body.htmMerritt Island, Florida 321- 453-0160
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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Here's a place that still sells 'pure' gasoline
http://harrisoilco.com/fuel.phpNonethanol Gasoline We carry all grades 87-89-93 and 111-114-118 race gas
Harris provides delivery to construction, farms, golf courses, home delivery, nurseries, etc.
Harris Oil & AC
21901 US Highway 441
Mount Dora, FL 32757
(352) 383-2322
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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Here's a place that still sells 'pure' gasoline
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/lifestyle/orl-on-the-road-052909,0,2728553.columnHere's a place that still sells 'pure' gasoline
Steven Cole Smith
AUTOMOTIVE
May 29, 2009
Question: I have been looking for ethanol-free gas in Orlando and have been unable to find any. Do you know of any gas stations that sell "pure" gasoline? The ethanol in the gas has been playing havoc with some of my engines, especially smaller engines.
John
Answer: The only place I've found in the area that sells ethanol-free gasoline — aside from racing fuel, that is — is Harris Oil Company in Mount Dora. An employee of the oil company says that the fuel comes from Tampa, which is where most of our gasoline comes from, but obviously Harris snags it before the ethanol is added. Earlier this week, Harris was charging $2.54 for a gallon of regular, when the Orlando average price, according to AAA, was $2.36. So you'll pay more, but because you can expect better mileage from pure gasoline, that makes up some of the difference.
If anyone knows of other places in Central Florida that sell pure gasoline, let me know — my e-mail is at the end of the column.
Send questions to
scsmith@orlandosentinel.com http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/lifestyle/orl-livplant-doctor-tom-maccubbin-j053009may30,0,7755009.column•Ethanol-enriched gases have a shorter storage life; buy smaller quantities or add a stabilizer.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-bizorl-beth-kassab-ethanol-0527052709may27,0,5365859.columnEthanol-blended gas a bad deal
Beth Kassab
Business Columnist
May 27, 2009
It's not enough that consumers are already being forced to buy ethanol-blended gasoline that yields worse mileage and offers, at best, questionable environmental benefits.
Now ethanol producers want to increase the legal limit on the amount of their product in your gasoline.
The Environmental Protection Agency is considering bumping the cap on ethanol from 10 percent to 15 percent at the pump.
That request from a group of ethanol producers comes after Congress in 2007 ordered big surges in ethanol consumption, requiring refiners to blend 36billion gallons of renewable fuels with gasoline a year by 2022, up from 9 billion gallons in 2008.
Last year, Gov. Charlie Crist and the Legislature ordered that E10 (the 10 percent blend) be used throughout Florida by the end of 2010.
The state is well on its way to that. Nonethanol blended gasoline hasn't been available in Orlando for at least a year.
Big fuel supply companies are investing millions of dollars to make sure they can transport the stuff.
Last year I reported on how Kinder Morgan, the company that owns the 110-mile pipeline that transports nearly all of Orlando's fuel supply from Tampa, was preparing an experimental run of ethanol through the line.
The test batch of 5,000 barrels of ethanol from Tampa to Orlando in October was a success, the company said.
Kinder Morgan has invested $10million to modify the line, including replacing pipeline equipment that would have been corroded by ethanol and expanding storage capacity at its terminal in Taft.
As of last month, 40 percent of the ethanol used in Orlando was transmitted through the pipeline, up from about 10 percent at the beginning of the year, said Jim Lelio, national biofuels manager and director of business development for Kinder Morgan.
The company also approved $90million in ethanol and biofuel projects including modifications to tanks, truck racks and other infrastructure to accommodate ethanol at its other terminals in the Southeast and Pacific Northwest.
Simply put, ethanol isn't going anywhere.
Its effects are here to stay. The question is how much worse it will get.
You've likely noticed at least a 10 percent drop in the fuel efficiency of your vehicle as a result of ethanol. And you may have even lost a lawn mower or chain saw if you didn't realize that ethanol-laced fuel will ruin small engines if it sits for any period of time.
E15 (the proposed 15 percent blend) would be even less efficient and more harmful.
An EPA study even found that corn ethanol emits more greenhouse gases than gasoline over 30 years when indirect effects such as the plowing of forests to make way for more corn crops as a result of increased ethanol demand are considered.
In the name of conserving petroleum, lessening our dependence on foreign oil and saving the environment we are ... being forced to fill our tanks more often?
Join the club if you don't think it makes much sense.
But don't stay silent. The EPA last week extended its public comment period on the request to increase the ethanol cap from 10percent to 15 percent. Comments must be submitted by July 20. Go to
www.regulations.gov and follow the online instructions or e-mail
a-and-r-docket@epa.gov. You can also fax your comment to 202-566-1741.
Beth Kassab can be reached at bkassab @orlandosentinel .com or 407-420-5448. Read her blog at orlandosentinel .com/thebottom line.
